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    Re: Kaine vs. Kilgore

    im sure youd like to kill anyone who robs from your family or mugs your wife and steals her purse...but that dont mean we should make a law stating if it happens then the state puts them to death
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    Re: Kaine vs. Kilgore

    I think that the punishment should fit the crime. If you are prepared to murder someone then you should die as well. If you are a rapist then you need to be locked up for a very, very long time with other rapists (they might take a liking to you). If someone does something to a child then that is a different story. Those kind of people deserve whatever happens to them. I know that when I worked at the prison a person that committed an offense against a child was not looked to fondly on by the other inmates. Believe it or not some of these inmates have there standards and rapists and child abusers are not at the top of the popularity list. In a perfect world we would not have to deal with this sort of situation but this is not a perfect world so we have to make the punishment harsh enough so that it might deter others from committing that crime. It is like a drunk driver, these people are often given a slap on the wrist and told not to do it again then what happens they go get drunk and get behind the wheel. What good does it do to take their license from them they just go drive anyway. Make it really hurt. Give them some time to think about it and really lay the fine to them. Alot of people take notice when it hurts their pocket book.

    If you let a murderer or a rapist out of jail I think that you should be able to keep tabs on them. What is the harm in tagging them someway so that you can keep up with them. What would you rather have, someones rights violated or a dead child that has been raped. There are people out there that take advantage of the system way too much. If people know that there is a way to keep track of them and that they are going to get caught don't you think that they will not committ the crime. I know that it sounds like big brother but how can you trust someone that has already committed one violent crime.
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    Re: Kaine vs. Kilgore

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    If you let a murderer or a rapist out of jail I think that you should be able to keep tabs on them. What is the harm in tagging them someway so that you can keep up with them. What would you rather have, someones rights violated or a dead child that has been raped. There are people out there that take advantage of the system way too much. If people know that there is a way to keep track of them and that they are going to get caught don't you think that they will not committ the crime. I know that it sounds like big brother but how can you trust someone that has already committed one violent crime.

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    Re: Kaine vs. Kilgore

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    I wasn't referring to only "violent crimes" I stated that the crime rate continues to rise and that violent criminals were receiving softer sentences than they were in prior generations...I didn't see anything about drug or gang related crimes mentioned. I also didnt see anything about 03, 04 or 05 and I didnt see anything about the rate of recidivism which continues to rise. I consider the 90's still in this generation and I point out that i was referring to the prior generation when talking about our influx of crime due to the fact that even in 02 the violent crime rate was quadruple what it was in the 60's...a few modest gains each year is to be expected when the rate was so astronomically high in the early 90's and when you consider what crimes aren't reported or investigated due to the understaffed world of law enforcement up through 9/11.

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    Ah, I see. So you weren't referring to the violent crime rate, but your concerns lie with violent crime sentencing? I think I'm confused. Could you please clarify which crimes you are concerned with?

    Here is information regarding drug-related crime:

    http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/dcf/duc.htm

    Generally, crime statistics take time to aggregate and analyze, so released findings typically lag by several years. For example, your recidivism claims are exceedingly difficult to confirm because the latest Department of Justice recidivism information is from 1983 and 1994.

    Do you have any data regarding the staffing levels of law enforcement agencies to validate your claim that they are understaffed?

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    Re: Kaine vs. Kilgore

    Yes I have. Works for me. What is wrong with tagging a rapist or murderer? They have committed this crime and they should have to live with it the rest of their life.
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    Re: Kaine vs. Kilgore

    I say tag them, tag them with a bullet between the eyes, they are of no use to society. Die hard liberals will always be there to defend death roll inmates, but where are they to defend the life of an unborn innocent life.

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    Re: Kaine vs. Kilgore

    Totally agree with that last sentence.

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    Re: Kaine vs. Kilgore

    me 2
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    Re: Kaine vs. Kilgore

    and die hard conservatives will be willing to play God when it comes to a living breathing human, but tell others to not play God when it involves something that in its earl stages is neither living, nor breathing
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    Re: Kaine vs. Kilgore

    exactly hahaha
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